My The Rise of Skywalker Theory: Rey is a Clone


A new Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker trailer dropped and well. . . I feel it’s time to share a theory I’ve had since The Force Awakens (Spoiler alert from here on out).

First, the trailer:

Since The Force Awakens (TFA), I’ve concluded Rey is a clone of Luke Skywalker’s hand from The Empire Strikes Back (TESB). These points have only been reinforced with more Star Wars films. Why? Let me quickly list my points then elaborate on them further:

1. Rey has no knowledge/vision of her parents
2. Rey speaks with a British accent
3. General Hux discussing cloning very briefly in TFA
4. Luke/Vader’s lightsaber “called” to her in TFA
5. Rey’s vision of Cloud City when when she first grabbed the lightsaber
6. Snoke’s non-existent backstory
7. A lot of things in the new films are previously established Star Wars canon, “the Expanded Universe” (EU), now known as “Legends.”
8. It doesn’t break the Jedi Code, keeping the Skywalker lineage clean
9. The new trailer

1. Rey has no knowledge/vision of her parents

In The Last Jedi (TLJ), Rey makes it to Ahch-To and trains with Luke to both try and recruit him and have him train her as a Jedi. Much like how Luke fought a faux Darth Vader in TESB, Rey falls into a cave and sees a silhouette of her “parents.” We get no information on what they look like or even if they’re human. They’re simply shadows. In TFA, all we get is a flashback of Rey’s “parents” flying away on a ship – as if she was left abandoned. As a child, surely one should be able to have any little glimpse of their parents. Heck, in Return of the Jedi (RotJ), Leia said about her mother, “She was, very beautiful, kind, but sad.” Even though Leia WAS A BABY, she still had an idea about her mother. What’s Rey got? Nothing. Why? Because there’s nothing there.

Rey’s parents or shadow puppets?

2. Rey speaks with a British accent

I hope this doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone, but the reasons why most Imperials speak with a British accent is for one of two reasons: One is that they’re imperialists much like how the British were – George Lucas wanted a direct correlation to the Empire and to real-world history. The second reason is because they’re from the central worlds like Coruscant, Corellia, Chandrila (lots of C’s there), and Alderaan. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn both had accents because they were on Coruscant with the Jedi and raised in central worlds. The Imperials had the accent because they were from main worlds. Mon Mothma and Bail Organa both had semi-British accents (as did Leia in A New Hope (ANH)). Jyn Erso from Rogue One had an accent because of her father raising her with Imperials around.

These accents are important to note because if Rey really did come from a poor world and family were really “filthy junk traders who sold [her] off for drinking money,” she wouldn’t have had the accent. She most definitely would not have picked it up on Jakku. She must have been raised in an Imperial world – or at least a central world. This is backed up further into my next point:

3. General Hux discussing cloning very briefly in TFA

Kylo Ren: How capable are your soldiers, General?
General Hux: I won’t have you question my methods.
Kylo Ren: They’re obviously skilled at committing high treason. Perhaps Leader Snoke should consider using a clone army.
General Hux: My men are exceptionally trained. Programmed from birth.
Kylo Ren: Then they should have no problem retrieving the droid.

This little discussion early in TFA subtly plants the suggestion into the reader’s mind that cloning IS A THING yet we don’t hear about it again.

In ANH, cloning was loosely talked about with Luke, Leia, and Obi-Wan, as the two Skywalker’s mentioned Obi-Wan serving with Anakin (or Bail) in the Clone Wars. Outside of that (and the prequels), we’re led to believe that’s all there is to cloning – only cloned Stormtroopers (but more with that on point 8). However, here we know that the bad guys, the First Order, are ACTIVELY using clones for the first time since the prequels (or in the Star Wars timeline, 60-80 years later). And like I said, that’s weird because cloning was not relevant in the original Star Wars trilogy, nor has cloning been relevant in the first two films of the new trilogy. So why bring it up at all? And I can’t help but feel that clones will probably have British accents like the rest of the First Order too. . .

4. Luke/Vader’s lightsaber “called” to her in TFA

A lot of this will be reinforced in point 7, however I think it’s important to let you know that in the Timothy Zahn book series, the Thrawn trilogy, Grand Admiral Thrawn has Luke Skywalker’s hand, cut off by Darth Vader in TESB, and clones it to create the cringe-worthy clone named “Luuke.” (I know, right?)

To make things really interesting, and to kind of sprinkle in point 5, with Rey’s vision of Cloud City, one could see how the blood of a Skywalker could want to “call out” to the lightsaber. To hit the point home even further, Rey touched the lightsaber and immediately found herself in Cloud City. Now most people would assume that it’s because “that’s where the lightsaber was last.” Perhaps it was Rey “remembering” when she was on Cloud City? A deja vu, if you may. However, it’s the Skywalker blood that’s having the deja vu. How can Rey not remember her parents, yet have a vision of some place she’s never been to?

♫”We built this Cloud City and Rey’s a clone.”♫

6. Snoke’s non-existent backstory

One thing I absolutely despise in storytelling is how the storyteller will purposefully leave out important information to make the “big reveal” feel stronger – films that loosely reveal information that helps develop a backstory – either with flashbacks or some sort of prophecy. With Snoke, it honestly feels more “hidden” than anything. There was tons of time to slip a line or two in about Snoke’s backstory. But what does the audience get? Nothing! Not a single damn thing. Films that purposefully hide plot points behind reveals is simply lazy storytelling. For a while, I was feeling frustration that there was lazy storytelling in TFA and TLJ. I really ripped into The Last Jedi over that one, actually.

However, I’ve come to the more comfortable conclusion that they’re purposefully not telling us because this “clone” reveal is going to be so huge that any glimpse into Snoke’s past would have said too much. If anything, since we know Emperor Palpatine is back, I’ll bet you Snoke was a failed clone of Emperor Palpatine – hence the disfigured face and, well, everything.

Speaking of hiding plot points, and to reinforce point 3: I wonder why General Hux – or for that matter, director J.J. Abrams – had cloning mentioned in TFA at all if cloning hadn’t been necessary to any plot point in the new films yet? . . . hmm.

7. A lot of things in the new films are previously established from the Star Wars EU, now known as “Legends.”

A lot has been borrowed from the original Star Wars EU, previously established in earlier books, video games, and comics. I mentioned in my review of The Last Jedi, that “Leia’s use of the Force bubble is something pulled from the EU/Legends in the book, The Courtship of Princess Leia.”

We also have lots of other tidbits from the EU, such as:
– The Hammerhead class Republic cruiser in Rogue One, which originated from the Knights of the Old Republic video game
– Kylo Ren being named “Ben,” which is what Luke and Mara Jade call their son
– The Sun Crusher and Starkiller Base both have the ability to wipe out systems, not just planets
– Exar Kun was an evil force that helped wreck Luke’s New Jedi Order. Look at what Kylo Ren did.
– Kylo Ren, a Solo, turned to the dark side. Just like Han and Leia’s son, Jacen Solo, turning to the dark side and becoming Darth Caedus
– Death Troopers looking like Shadowtroopers from Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
– In Solo: A Star Wars Story, L3-37 (ugh) is very similar named and looking like LE-BO2D9, or “Leebo,” Dash Rendar’s droid from Shadows of the Empire
– Swoop bikes and Dash Rendar’s Outrider from Shadows of the Empire were added into the Special Edition of ANH
– Darth Maul’s double-bladed lightsaber was originally created with Exar Kun
– Kylo Ren’s crossguard lightsaber first originated out of the Star Wars comic books
– Grand Admiral Thrawn from the Star Wars TV series is originally from the EU books
– I’ll admit I’m speculating here, but in the Thrawn trilogy by Zahn, Leia feels the presence of Palpatine where he died in space over Endor. In a later book by Zahn, the Emperor returns as a clone. From the first teaser trailer, we hear the Emperor laugh over the destroyed Death Star on Endor. . .

Believe me, there’s more. But what I’m trying to get at, is that the Star Wars films aren’t without influence from things considered “non-canon.” The idea of Rey being a clone isn’t too far fetched when cloning characters is literally within the confines of the fantasy world Star Wars has built. We hear the Emperor laughing in the first teaser trailer for The Rise of Skywalker (TRoS). Is it that wrong to assume he’s back as a clone?

8. It doesn’t break the Jedi Code, keeping the Skywalker lineage clean

This is my big one: Anakin Skywalker falls in love with Padmé Amidala and marries her. That is forbidden by the Jedi Order because jealousy, temptation, and fear of loss could ultimately turn one to the dark side. Anakin breaks the Jedi Order, falls in love, and turns to the dark side. He becomes Darth Vader, the ultimate bad guy.

Padmé, however, gives birth to Luke and Leia. Leia is not a Jedi technically, so she’s in clear. Also, because Star Wars borrows from the real world, Ben is a Solo, not a Skywalker, because of his dad.

The clone of Rey, however, would be the perfect way to wipe the slate clean for the Skywalker lineage. Not only would Rey be a Skywalker, but she would be a way for Luke to “have a child” without ever having to break the Jedi Order. This Rey clone would keep the Skywalker lineage in check, and thus keep the Jedi, or even a neutral “Jedi” path, safe (that link/idea is also from the EU and has been heavily suggested from fans). It’s also called, “The Rise of Skywalker,” not “The Rise of Solo,” so it can’t be talking about Ben. What a better way to keep Luke’s lineage/nobility to the Jedi Order than to just clone him than have him “break the rules.”

9. The new trailer

Ah. The face of someone who has complete control of their mind. Definitely not a clone. . . ?

And finally we come to the new trailer that has dropped. We see Rey with a double-bladed lightsaber (which I’ve already established came from the Expanded Universe). Doesn’t she look a bit. . . stoic? Seems familiar to one Luuke Skywalker.

Mentally, he was little more than a mindless drone, an extension of Joruus C’baoth’s will. The clone was created for C’baoth’s use as a tool, and he obeyed the insane Jedi Master’s every command instantly. The clone was devoid of any sense of individuality and showed no recognizable sign of emotion until the end of his bout with [Luke] Skywalker, when he shrieked and attacked Mara Jade in fury after a viewscreen blew up in his face. Skywalker considered the clone to be thoroughly evil, a twisted perversion of himself.

While I’m not suggesting that there’s going to be TWO Rey’s in TRoS, it wouldn’t surprise me if she became the Luuke in this example – the extension of the Emperor’s mind to fight Kylo Ren or something. I’m not sure, of course. However, when you think of a mindless drone, that certainly is the face of one, no? From that short clip, Rey’s mind is gone, and I’m suggesting, is under Palpatine’s will.

I have to say, the more information that comes out about the film, unless it explicitly shows “these are Rey’s parents!” I have to continue my rationale that Rey, is indeed, a clone of Luke Skywalker’s hand.

Thoughts, concerns, or arguments to be had? Let’s go!

Until next time, keep on Space Truckin’.

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11 thoughts on “My The Rise of Skywalker Theory: Rey is a Clone

  1. Adam Fletcher

    Well thought out hypothesis and support for it!

    My contention, though, is that we can see the hand and Anakin’s lightsaber fall from the ventilation shaft Luke tumbled through in Empire.

    With Bespin being a gaseous planet with a liquid core and no discernable surface (though it’s mass would have to be similar to Earth or the gravitational pull would have destroyed many, many things), it’s safe to assume it fell far enough to be crushed by the intense pressure closer to the core.

    1. Hey Adam,

      I appreciate the comment. While I agree with you logically, I’ll have to retort with my own question: since when did science, physics, and logic ever matter in the fantasy world of Star Wars?

      Alternatively, one could easily retcon a ship flying by that the hand fell on. Or alternatively, Rey could be a clone of Anakin!

      1. Adam Fletcher

        I concede the point, as science is “no match for the power of the force.”

        But also, Vader had Obi-Wan’s saber so maybe you’re on the right track with the eugenics discussion.

  2. I hate the “Rey is a clone” theory. No one has explained how a cloning a male can produce a female. If Rise of Skywalker does that, they better be prepared to stop the movie for fifteen minutes to give a science lesson on how a clone can have the EXACT SAME genes as the original but still be a different sex. Otherwise, I will just be yelling at the screen the whole time.

    1. Hi Emma,

      Thanks for popping in.

      I have never considered how one could “clone a female from a male.” But much like my response with Adam: Star Wars doesn’t care about the science behind it because it’s a fantasy. However, if Star Wars was really a science-fiction, I feel your comment would then completely debunk everything I’ve said.

      Either way, you’re comment is really making me think.

      Thank you!

    2. Weirdly, Star Wars might be the only franchise with a way around that. Anakin was technically concieved by the Force, kinda, right? So the only genes he actually has would be Shmi’s. Female genes. So say Palpatine tried to clone Anakin with traditional methods, you might… actually get Rey. (I have seen this theory going around and I love it. But also I am not a scientist.)

      1. Thanks for stopping by, ODA.

        Because Star Wars works in the fantasy realm, they can really “get away” with doing anything. I like that idea that the cloning could “skip” a generation. I mean, Vader DID have twins, so he can kind of “clone” as well, so to speak.

        I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the new Star Wars comics (which is now the new canon), but in issue #25 of Darth Vader, they kind of explain Shmi’s birth of Anakin.

        Spoilers: “Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life.”

        In the comic, it is suggested (although not confirmed) that Palpatine manipulated the midi-chlorians in Shmi to create Anakin, thus making Palpatine Vader’s father.

        Star Wars can do anything it wants.

    1. Hi Jamie,

      Thanks for stopping by. I certainly hope I’m correct about the reasoning behind Snoke’s lack of backstory. I mean, I’m even fine with conceding he was a failed Palpatine clone. I just cannot imagine why there hasn’t been anything regarding Snoke outside of three reasons: one I’ve given above, or two, Disney really wants to milk his back story with another series, and three: lazy storytelling.

      Here’s hoping we all get some closure!

  3. Great Post!

    Some miscellaneous thoughts:
    Rey, a Clone. I hadn’t thought of that and it is an interesting theory. Who knows?

    I have another theory of my own to offer:
    Rey is the daughter of…….SHMI. Note the resemblance between them. This could also explain her force-abilities with no training. When Shmi told Obi-Wan’s mentor: “there was no Father”, who’s to say that Shmi didn’t have another “fatherless moment” after Anakin left her? If it could happen once, why not twice? Again, the family resemblance.

    But there’s more: In the trailer you have, above. Listen to it again. When it says “we’ve passed down all we know. The 1000 generations live in you now”. That sounds like LUKE, talking. BUT—-(listen to it again) near the end of the Trailer when we hear something like:
    “your Journey is almost complete” (?), just before we see Rey have a double-sided light saber, THAT voice sounded like Palpatine’s, not Luke’s. I havent seen or read of anyone else mentioning this, so far. But there is still more: speaking of Rey being a Clone…..suppose that “the Good Rey” does NOT turn to the Dark Side at all but that the REy that we see with the double-sided lightsaber IS a Clone of Rey (the good one). Two Reys? 1 good, one evil? Could it be? Who would have done it? And if someone cloned an evil Rey, why would that same person create a good Rey, or a Rey that wasn’t already evil from the very beginning? Hmmmm…

    Here’s something else: SNOKE.
    Snoke himself said that he had: “seen the rise of the Republic”.
    But wouldnt that make him older than Palpatine?
    And if so, why don’t we ever hear Palpatine mention Snoke, to Anakin? Why doesn’t Obi-wan ever mention of wan of Snoke? Why doesn’t Yoda, if Snoke was already around? Unless—–

    Remember Snoke’s appearance. Very battered-looking, skinny/boney, and as if he had been badly burned. Now, flash-back to when Darth Vader threw Palpatine “down the chute” and there was an explosion. Another theory I have is: What if Snoke was really the buirned & battered Palpatine? This explains:
    1. His appearance
    2. His fear of Luke
    3. Why Yoda and Obi-wan never mentioned him. There are two more things:

    A) WHO??—is Maz Kanata? She keeps “flying under the Radar”.
    B) “The Rise of Skywalker”. “Everybody” assumes it has to either about Rey, or Kylo Ren. But suppose thats another “grand fake-out”? Suppose its about a NEW Skywalker. Like who? Like, wellllll….what about that small boy at the end of The Last Jedi who was using the Force to do sweeping with a broom? Did anyone see it coming? But I only guessing. Still, its much fun to think about all this.

    Bonus thought: Will we find out anything-more about “The Unknown Regions”? Who are “the Chiss”? and will we discover more about them? Are they good or evil?
    My biggest hope for this next movie is very simply that the audience DOES get very clear, specific, and definite ANSWERS!! No more of the “leaving us hanging with no answers” That is exactly why The Last Jedi was such a colossal disappointment.

    1. Hey Owl,

      Thanks for stopping by and providing your own theory. Holy moly, that’s a lot to unpack and think about. I completely forgot about the other backstories about Maz and the Unknown Regions that are kind of “left hanging” for us.

      As for the Shmi theory. . . boy, imagine if that were true and Palp cloned her so she could make another Anakin Skywalker. Star Wars eugenics? Yikes!

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